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		<title>By: david e</title>
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		<dc:creator>david e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, i remember the same thing happening with &quot;the book theif.&quot;

the problem here in the US is that publishers have a hard time with upper YA because teen readers are notorious for dropping out of sight. as a tactical business decision they would rather hope to catch the younger YA readers with an older book and take the intended audience as gravy.

ms. lanagan was disarmingly charming. she spoke to a group of children&#039;s writers at vermont college (i was in attendance at the time) and she had an audience - some of whom were hostile because they felt TM was inappropriate for children - eating out of her hand by the end.  she spoke mostly about the process of writing TM and her thinking while writing it. i can&#039;t say that when i had the chance that i was particularly articulate when speaking with her, but she did make a prediction about my final semester in school which proved accurate.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6285&#039;,&#039;david e&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;6285&#039;,&#039;david e&#039;,&#039;yes, i remember the same thing happening with \&quot;the book theif.\&quot;\r\n\r\nthe problem here in the US is that publishers have a hard time with upper YA because teen readers are notorious for dropping out of sight. as a tactical business decision they would rather hope to catch the younger YA readers with an older book and take the intended audience as gravy.\r\n\r\nms. lanagan was disarmingly charming. she spoke to a group of children\&#039;s writers at vermont college (i was in attendance at the time) and she had an audience - some of whom were hostile because they felt TM was inappropriate for children - eating out of her hand by the end.  she spoke mostly about the process of writing TM and her thinking while writing it. i can\&#039;t say that when i had the chance that i was particularly articulate when speaking with her, but she did make a prediction about my final semester in school which proved accurate.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->yes, i remember the same thing happening with &#8220;the book theif.&#8221;</p>
<p>the problem here in the US is that publishers have a hard time with upper YA because teen readers are notorious for dropping out of sight. as a tactical business decision they would rather hope to catch the younger YA readers with an older book and take the intended audience as gravy.</p>
<p>ms. lanagan was disarmingly charming. she spoke to a group of children&#8217;s writers at vermont college (i was in attendance at the time) and she had an audience &#8211; some of whom were hostile because they felt TM was inappropriate for children &#8211; eating out of her hand by the end.  she spoke mostly about the process of writing TM and her thinking while writing it. i can&#8217;t say that when i had the chance that i was particularly articulate when speaking with her, but she did make a prediction about my final semester in school which proved accurate.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('6285','david e'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('6285','david e','yes, i remember the same thing happening with \&quot;the book theif.\&quot;\r\n\r\nthe problem here in the US is that publishers have a hard time with upper YA because teen readers are notorious for dropping out of sight. as a tactical business decision they would rather hope to catch the younger YA readers with an older book and take the intended audience as gravy.\r\n\r\nms. lanagan was disarmingly charming. she spoke to a group of children\'s writers at vermont college (i was in attendance at the time) and she had an audience - some of whom were hostile because they felt TM was inappropriate for children - eating out of her hand by the end.  she spoke mostly about the process of writing TM and her thinking while writing it. i can\'t say that when i had the chance that i was particularly articulate when speaking with her, but she did make a prediction about my final semester in school which proved accurate.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Peta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 00:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-6265&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@david e&lt;/a&gt; - How funny, I was just about to head over to fomagrams!

I am Australian, and that&#039;s pretty common. For us, The Book Thief was markets as adult with the understanding that upper YA readers might appreciate it too; I think (though I&#039;m not certain) the later YA promotion came after the US categorization. It was certainly true when I was a kid, too--I read up a lot, with books from the adult section of the library and bookstore, though a lot of the novels were upper YA appropriate.

What was the talk like?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6280&#039;,&#039;Peta&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;6280&#039;,&#039;Peta&#039;,&#039;&lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-6265\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;@david e&lt;\/a&gt; - How funny, I was just about to head over to fomagrams!\r\n\r\nI am Australian, and that\&#039;s pretty common. For us, The Book Thief was markets as adult with the understanding that upper YA readers might appreciate it too; I think (though I\&#039;m not certain) the later YA promotion came after the US categorization. It was certainly true when I was a kid, too--I read up a lot, with books from the adult section of the library and bookstore, though a lot of the novels were upper YA appropriate.\r\n\r\nWhat was the talk like?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><a href='#comment-6265' rel="nofollow">@david e</a> &#8211; How funny, I was just about to head over to fomagrams!</p>
<p>I am Australian, and that&#8217;s pretty common. For us, The Book Thief was markets as adult with the understanding that upper YA readers might appreciate it too; I think (though I&#8217;m not certain) the later YA promotion came after the US categorization. It was certainly true when I was a kid, too&#8211;I read up a lot, with books from the adult section of the library and bookstore, though a lot of the novels were upper YA appropriate.</p>
<p>What was the talk like?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('6280','Peta'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('6280','Peta','&lt;a href=\'#comment-6265\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;@david e&lt;\/a&gt; - How funny, I was just about to head over to fomagrams!\r\n\r\nI am Australian, and that\'s pretty common. For us, The Book Thief was markets as adult with the understanding that upper YA readers might appreciate it too; I think (though I\'m not certain) the later YA promotion came after the US categorization. It was certainly true when I was a kid, too--I read up a lot, with books from the adult section of the library and bookstore, though a lot of the novels were upper YA appropriate.\r\n\r\nWhat was the talk like?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: david e</title>
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		<dc:creator>david e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice run-through on the history of YA.  

the interesting thing about &quot;tender morsels&quot; also brings up the problem with an international title.  i had the opportunity to hear her speak about this issue last summer and she pointed out that in both england and her native australia it is considered more &quot;new adult&quot; with a target market of 19 and up.  random house&#039;s decision to call it YA in the US meant it would be presented as being 14 and up, which is not really appropriate.  

US publishers and chain booksellers don&#039;t necessarily want to break YA up into these &quot;young&quot; and &quot;new&quot; distinctions because it fractures their marketing efforts and would beg the admission that much of what they push on a younger audience might be inappropriate.  if there&#039;s one thing stubborn teens share with publishers is the mutual hatred of being told what is or isn&#039;t appropriate for their age.

to that end, i don&#039;t think NA will take off *unless* the large chains and online retailers agree to take it on as a category.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;6265&#039;,&#039;david e&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;6265&#039;,&#039;david e&#039;,&#039;nice run-through on the history of YA.  \r\n\r\nthe interesting thing about \&quot;tender morsels\&quot; also brings up the problem with an international title.  i had the opportunity to hear her speak about this issue last summer and she pointed out that in both england and her native australia it is considered more \&quot;new adult\&quot; with a target market of 19 and up.  random house\&#039;s decision to call it YA in the US meant it would be presented as being 14 and up, which is not really appropriate.  \r\n\r\nUS publishers and chain booksellers don\&#039;t necessarily want to break YA up into these \&quot;young\&quot; and \&quot;new\&quot; distinctions because it fractures their marketing efforts and would beg the admission that much of what they push on a younger audience might be inappropriate.  if there\&#039;s one thing stubborn teens share with publishers is the mutual hatred of being told what is or isn\&#039;t appropriate for their age.\r\n\r\nto that end, i don\&#039;t think NA will take off *unless* the large chains and online retailers agree to take it on as a category.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->nice run-through on the history of YA.  </p>
<p>the interesting thing about &#8220;tender morsels&#8221; also brings up the problem with an international title.  i had the opportunity to hear her speak about this issue last summer and she pointed out that in both england and her native australia it is considered more &#8220;new adult&#8221; with a target market of 19 and up.  random house&#8217;s decision to call it YA in the US meant it would be presented as being 14 and up, which is not really appropriate.  </p>
<p>US publishers and chain booksellers don&#8217;t necessarily want to break YA up into these &#8220;young&#8221; and &#8220;new&#8221; distinctions because it fractures their marketing efforts and would beg the admission that much of what they push on a younger audience might be inappropriate.  if there&#8217;s one thing stubborn teens share with publishers is the mutual hatred of being told what is or isn&#8217;t appropriate for their age.</p>
<p>to that end, i don&#8217;t think NA will take off *unless* the large chains and online retailers agree to take it on as a category.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('6265','david e'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('6265','david e','nice run-through on the history of YA.  \r\n\r\nthe interesting thing about \&quot;tender morsels\&quot; also brings up the problem with an international title.  i had the opportunity to hear her speak about this issue last summer and she pointed out that in both england and her native australia it is considered more \&quot;new adult\&quot; with a target market of 19 and up.  random house\'s decision to call it YA in the US meant it would be presented as being 14 and up, which is not really appropriate.  \r\n\r\nUS publishers and chain booksellers don\'t necessarily want to break YA up into these \&quot;young\&quot; and \&quot;new\&quot; distinctions because it fractures their marketing efforts and would beg the admission that much of what they push on a younger audience might be inappropriate.  if there\'s one thing stubborn teens share with publishers is the mutual hatred of being told what is or isn\'t appropriate for their age.\r\n\r\nto that end, i don\'t think NA will take off *unless* the large chains and online retailers agree to take it on as a category.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: rrsmythe</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 21:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @PetaAndersen: New Adult Fiction - Beyond the Limits of YA, or Just New Packaging? http://ow.ly/13Mvs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;4361&#039;,&#039;rrsmythe&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;4361&#039;,&#039;rrsmythe&#039;,&#039;&lt;span class=\&quot;topsy_trackback_comment\&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=\&quot;topsy_twitter_username\&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=\&quot;topsy_trackback_content\&quot;&gt;RT @PetaAndersen: New Adult Fiction - Beyond the Limits of YA, or Just New Packaging? http:\/\/ow.ly\/13Mvs&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: The Mad Editor&#8217;s Round-Up #16 &#124; Diary of a Mad Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mad Editor&#8217;s Round-Up #16 &#124; Diary of a Mad Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dystopias: YA Fad, or Here to Stay? &#124; *Insert Literary Blog Name Here*</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dystopias: YA Fad, or Here to Stay? &#124; *Insert Literary Blog Name Here*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->[...] of the time. Granted, this could be because YA readers grow up to become adult lit readers (via NA readers, of course). But I suspect thereâ€™s more to it than [...]
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		<title>By: Grand Central @NYPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grand Central @NYPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;YA or New Adult? Help us figure it all out as we create a New Adult space on our mezzanine this weekend: http://ow.ly/13Mvs&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1175&#039;,&#039;Grand Central @NYPL&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1175&#039;,&#039;Grand Central @NYPL&#039;,&#039;&lt;span class=\&quot;topsy_trackback_comment\&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=\&quot;topsy_twitter_username\&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=\&quot;topsy_trackback_content\&quot;&gt;YA or New Adult? Help us figure it all out as we create a New Adult space on our mezzanine this weekend: http:\/\/ow.ly\/13Mvs&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">YA or New Adult? Help us figure it all out as we create a New Adult space on our mezzanine this weekend: <a href="http://ow.ly/13Mvs" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/13Mvs</a></span></span>
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		<title>By: Peta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-760&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Joe&lt;/a&gt; - I&#039;m not sure it really is different from YA. I think that, to some degree, is the beauty of it. Sectioning YA makes it more accessible - older readers may be drawn to it, older teens will have a selection aimed specifically to their tastes. Younger teens ready for older books will also be able to browse NA while those not ready for it can stick to YA. It&#039;s sort of like splitting up Crime and Mystery - it makes it easier for readers to find exactly what they&#039;re looking for.

Defining YA as 14+ may be a misnomer, especially in the US, where the voting age is 18, the drinking age 21. Historically, though, kids were forced to grow up faster, and I think that&#039;s stuck. And honestly, what else would you call a 14 year old without infantilising or offending them? They really are stuck between &quot;childhood&quot; and &quot;adulthood&quot;. &quot;Young adult&quot; seems appropriate. Perhaps the issue isn&#039;t so much that we&#039;re putting 14 year olds in YA as that we&#039;re including 17+ up, the age most kids are graduating/about to graduate.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;767&#039;,&#039;Peta&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;767&#039;,&#039;Peta&#039;,&#039;&lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-760\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;@Joe&lt;\/a&gt; - I\&#039;m not sure it really is different from YA. I think that, to some degree, is the beauty of it. Sectioning YA makes it more accessible - older readers may be drawn to it, older teens will have a selection aimed specifically to their tastes. Younger teens ready for older books will also be able to browse NA while those not ready for it can stick to YA. It\&#039;s sort of like splitting up Crime and Mystery - it makes it easier for readers to find exactly what they\&#039;re looking for.\r\n\r\nDefining YA as 14+ may be a misnomer, especially in the US, where the voting age is 18, the drinking age 21. Historically, though, kids were forced to grow up faster, and I think that\&#039;s stuck. And honestly, what else would you call a 14 year old without infantilising or offending them? They really are stuck between \&quot;childhood\&quot; and \&quot;adulthood\&quot;. \&quot;Young adult\&quot; seems appropriate. Perhaps the issue isn\&#039;t so much that we\&#039;re putting 14 year olds in YA as that we\&#039;re including 17+ up, the age most kids are graduating\/about to graduate.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><a href='#comment-760' rel="nofollow">@Joe</a> &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure it really is different from YA. I think that, to some degree, is the beauty of it. Sectioning YA makes it more accessible &#8211; older readers may be drawn to it, older teens will have a selection aimed specifically to their tastes. Younger teens ready for older books will also be able to browse NA while those not ready for it can stick to YA. It&#8217;s sort of like splitting up Crime and Mystery &#8211; it makes it easier for readers to find exactly what they&#8217;re looking for.</p>
<p>Defining YA as 14+ may be a misnomer, especially in the US, where the voting age is 18, the drinking age 21. Historically, though, kids were forced to grow up faster, and I think that&#8217;s stuck. And honestly, what else would you call a 14 year old without infantilising or offending them? They really are stuck between &#8220;childhood&#8221; and &#8220;adulthood&#8221;. &#8220;Young adult&#8221; seems appropriate. Perhaps the issue isn&#8217;t so much that we&#8217;re putting 14 year olds in YA as that we&#8217;re including 17+ up, the age most kids are graduating/about to graduate.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('767','Peta'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('767','Peta','&lt;a href=\'#comment-760\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;@Joe&lt;\/a&gt; - I\'m not sure it really is different from YA. I think that, to some degree, is the beauty of it. Sectioning YA makes it more accessible - older readers may be drawn to it, older teens will have a selection aimed specifically to their tastes. Younger teens ready for older books will also be able to browse NA while those not ready for it can stick to YA. It\'s sort of like splitting up Crime and Mystery - it makes it easier for readers to find exactly what they\'re looking for.\r\n\r\nDefining YA as 14+ may be a misnomer, especially in the US, where the voting age is 18, the drinking age 21. Historically, though, kids were forced to grow up faster, and I think that\'s stuck. And honestly, what else would you call a 14 year old without infantilising or offending them? They really are stuck between \&quot;childhood\&quot; and \&quot;adulthood\&quot;. \&quot;Young adult\&quot; seems appropriate. Perhaps the issue isn\'t so much that we\'re putting 14 year olds in YA as that we\'re including 17+ up, the age most kids are graduating\/about to graduate.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that annoys me about the term NA is that it doesn&#039;t seem like something different from YA - aren&#039;t young adults also new adults (actually the problem is that we&#039;re calling 14yo kids adults in the term YA)?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;760&#039;,&#039;Joe&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;760&#039;,&#039;Joe&#039;,&#039;One thing that annoys me about the term NA is that it doesn\&#039;t seem like something different from YA - aren\&#039;t young adults also new adults (actually the problem is that we\&#039;re calling 14yo kids adults in the term YA)?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->One thing that annoys me about the term NA is that it doesn&#8217;t seem like something different from YA &#8211; aren&#8217;t young adults also new adults (actually the problem is that we&#8217;re calling 14yo kids adults in the term YA)?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('760','Joe'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('760','Joe','One thing that annoys me about the term NA is that it doesn\'t seem like something different from YA - aren\'t young adults also new adults (actually the problem is that we\'re calling 14yo kids adults in the term YA)?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Market Bound &#8211; Limits in YA Literature &#171; *Insert Literary Blog Name Here*</title>
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		<dc:creator>Market Bound &#8211; Limits in YA Literature &#171; *Insert Literary Blog Name Here*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a little more about TM as YA in today&#8217;s post, New Adult Fiction &#8211; Beyond the Limits of YA, or Just New Packaging?   Share/Save   Share [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;754&#039;,&#039;Market Bound &#8211; Limits in YA Literature &laquo; *Insert Literary Blog Name Here*&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;754&#039;,&#039;Market Bound &#8211; Limits in YA Literature &laquo; *Insert Literary Blog Name Here*&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; a little more about TM as YA in today&#8217;s post, New Adult Fiction &#8211; Beyond the Limits of YA, or Just New Packaging?   Share\/Save   Share &#91;...&#93;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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